tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post2231703008158138209..comments2024-03-18T11:48:21.973-07:00Comments on Wandering Chopsticks: Vietnamese Food, Recipes, and More: Nuoc Mam (Vietnamese Fish Sauce)Wandering Chopstickshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-4327192236619611552011-03-01T02:31:10.464-08:002011-03-01T02:31:10.464-08:00Cuong,
My recommendations come from a practical s...Cuong,<br /><br />My recommendations come from a practical standpoint. It's all well and good to say Phu Quoc has the best fish sauce, but how feasible and accessible is it for most people? So that's why I said I mostly cook with Squid brand, just anchovies and salt, and cheap and sold even at American grocery stores.<br /><br />But, as I pointed out, Viet Huong isn't a Thai company. Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-26027851965047485952010-11-19T07:00:57.009-08:002010-11-19T07:00:57.009-08:00WC,
I found it interesting that this blog is about...WC,<br />I found it interesting that this blog is about Vietnamese fish sauce (nuoc mam) but the recommendation from the author was Thai fish sauce, even though, you admitted Viet Huong aka 1,2,3 crabs, and imitation Phu Quoc brand is not from VN as previously thought. And have you ever Wondered why the name Phu Quoc was used by Viet Huong and many other Thai's fish sauce companies? Could Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10193106957347089681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-71307908297421280692010-08-17T03:26:41.052-07:002010-08-17T03:26:41.052-07:00Mike,
You can use the Squid brand fish sauce I pos...Mike,<br />You can use the Squid brand fish sauce I posted about. The ingredients are just anchovy extract, salt, and sugar.<br /><br />Rawriliekpie,<br />I've never heard of that brand, but $15! Egads! Too expensive for me.Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-48341081717310717582010-08-17T03:25:57.024-07:002010-08-17T03:25:57.024-07:00Sam,
I assume you're referring to this http:/...Sam,<br /><br />I assume you're referring to this http://www1.american.edu/ted/vietnam-fish-sauce.htm American University article about fish sauce. It reads like an undergraduate research paper based solely upon Googling. A real "scholar" would have conducted independent research and would have relied upon more than online sources, outdated links, Wikipedia (which is fine for blogs Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-78202418634480488232010-08-07T18:18:47.640-07:002010-08-07T18:18:47.640-07:00Hi Mike,
There is actually authentic fish sauce f...Hi Mike,<br /><br />There is actually authentic fish sauce from Phu Quoc you can get here in the US.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Phu-Island-Vietnam-23-ounce-Bottle/dp/B0037J1YO2 <br /><br />I've never seen this brand in stores before, but was recommended by friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-54305531305053088862010-06-21T20:02:44.997-07:002010-06-21T20:02:44.997-07:00Ingredients: anchovy extract, water, salt, fructos...Ingredients: anchovy extract, water, salt, fructose & hydrolyzed wheat protein.<br /> three crabs <br />is there a name w2ith more authentic ingrediants the wheat protien and corn syrup seem awfully modern and western any names and places to buy the real thing?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02121852983086033872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-79170754605730021502010-06-15T21:24:28.989-07:002010-06-15T21:24:28.989-07:00WC,
"Some fish sauce that is made in other c...WC,<br /><br />"Some fish sauce that is made in other countries is labeled with Vietnamese locations and the abuse of notoriety of the products quality with inferior products. Many trade information found on the import and export of fish sauce points to Thailand as the fish sauce producer but when carefully examining the items one can see that the label is littered with Vietnamese names and Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01445176184906766995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-78581099996540703242010-06-15T20:58:09.513-07:002010-06-15T20:58:09.513-07:00Sam,
Do you have any proof of the opposite? Becaus...Sam,<br />Do you have any proof of the opposite? Because then clearly you shouldn't go around attacking people when you don't have anything to back up your statements. <br /><br />As for which fish sauce brands people prefer, that's personal taste. Arguing for fish sauce to be like wine is silly since we don't drink pure fish sauce. It's also diluted when made into dipping Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-60226036109726311952010-06-15T18:04:10.703-07:002010-06-15T18:04:10.703-07:00"Though the labels might say processed in Tha..."Though the labels might say processed in Thailand, these are purely Vietnamese fish sauces. I think this was before normalization of relations so it needed to have a non-Vietnamese label in order to be imported into the US?"<br /><br />How do you know this!? Unless you work for these fish sauce companies and have inside information (which you clearly don't), then I would suggest Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01445176184906766995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-59131290340890534222010-03-18T05:51:00.020-07:002010-03-18T05:51:00.020-07:00Tammy,
What if it broke? Eeek! Vietnam Airlines ou...Tammy,<br />What if it broke? Eeek! Vietnam Airlines outlawed it from their flights because of those fears. I want to go to Phu Quoc and visit a nuoc mam factory and try how refined it could really be!<br /><br />Katie,<br />As I already said in my post, "Though the labels might say processed in Thailand, these are purely Vietnamese fish sauces. I think this was before normalization of Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-46989349089967876542010-03-17T16:01:31.238-07:002010-03-17T16:01:31.238-07:00don't you find it funny that the phu quoc fish...don't you find it funny that the phu quoc fish sauce says that it was made in thailand in small print? I don't what to make of it.katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13753564313606669430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-26897541168893802332010-02-01T16:29:45.192-08:002010-02-01T16:29:45.192-08:00Three Crabs all the way for me! Haven't alway...Three Crabs all the way for me! Haven't always been able to get it in the different places I have lived, but love it enough to have brought it in a well-wrapped package in my luggage. Risk-taker, eh? I tried nuoc mam that was even more refined and nuanced in Phu Quoc (and so remarkably tasty you could sample it pure by the teaspoon), but by then I was so weighed down with other things I'Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03437876558716264896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-21420100469809267832009-11-11T12:30:36.569-08:002009-11-11T12:30:36.569-08:00Scorpio Lights,
It's probably still usable. Ta...Scorpio Lights,<br />It's probably still usable. Taste it and see if you like it. Or buy Three Crabs and compare. A bottle of fish sauce is only a few bucks. And really, it's all a matter of personal preference.Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-75576755729391777052009-07-02T10:52:00.183-07:002009-07-02T10:52:00.183-07:00I was looking at fish sauce yesterday for the firs...I was looking at fish sauce yesterday for the first time with some friends, and jokingly picked up "two crabs" because it was the average of "one" and "three crab" on either side of it... have I made a horrible mistake, or is it still usable? it smelled pretty strange when I opened it, but having never used fish sauce straight before, I have no idea what to expect. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-8809113323176054472009-04-20T00:38:00.000-07:002009-04-20T00:38:00.000-07:00Kris,
It's still really a matter of personal prefe...Kris,<br />It's still really a matter of personal preference. Just experiment and see which one suits your tastebuds.Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-72021901813785669962009-04-17T11:48:00.000-07:002009-04-17T11:48:00.000-07:00thank you for sharing this valuable info on fish s...thank you for sharing this valuable info on fish sauce... it is very frustrating not knowing which one to buy at the market. i bought the 3 crabs today looking forward to try it soon.kris 林文媛https://www.blogger.com/profile/02517898710013749723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-4045198282485196702009-01-01T04:39:00.000-08:002009-01-01T04:39:00.000-08:00Paige,It's a matter of personal preference. Some f...Paige,<BR/>It's a matter of personal preference. Some fish sauces taste sweeter than others. Three Crabs is definitely sweeter than Squid brand. However, there are ready-made dipping sauces with the sugar added. And you'll want to add sugar to make the dipping sauces at home too. But it's not necessary to heat the fish sauce, I only do that to evenly dissolve the sugar.Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-46006774758943354942008-12-20T20:06:00.000-08:002008-12-20T20:06:00.000-08:00I notice that some brands have sugar added while o...I notice that some brands have sugar added while others do not. I always buy one without sugar because I figure it would be more authentic. Is this true?<BR/>I was also wondering if some kinds can be used without cooking, like in a dipping sauce?...I know that filipinos always heat the fish sauce before using so I assumed they all needed to be cooked first.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16681688423670266331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-66692349114377808372008-12-02T10:39:00.000-08:002008-12-02T10:39:00.000-08:00Zaskar,Yup. As I already said in my post, "(Though...Zaskar,<BR/>Yup. <BR/><BR/>As I already said in my post, "(Though the labels might say processed in Thailand, these are purely Vietnamese fish sauces. I think this was before normalization of relations so it needed to have a non-Vietnamese label in order to be imported into the US?)"Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-18442088911477809392008-11-15T07:45:00.000-08:002008-11-15T07:45:00.000-08:00Wandering Chopsticks,I noticed that even the Phu Q...Wandering Chopsticks,<BR/><BR/>I noticed that even the Phu Qouc brand is from Thailand. I now that the best is suppose to be made there, on that Island, which is Vietnam I beleive.<BR/><BR/>Are they using Thailand just because itemts didn't come from Vietnam to the USA until recently.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043639869480513427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-79799727872249660632008-08-11T16:32:00.000-07:002008-08-11T16:32:00.000-07:00Carmen,Yup, if you plan to cook my recipes, use my...Carmen,<BR/>Yup, if you plan to cook my recipes, use my preferred brand of fish sauce for similar results. Not all fish sauces are the same.Wandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-64478178237684902612008-08-06T09:17:00.000-07:002008-08-06T09:17:00.000-07:00Thanks so much for this post with your recommendat...Thanks so much for this post with your recommendations on fish sauce - I was going to try your Vietnamese braised pork chops next week and was wondering what brand of fish sauce to get - we don't cook with it much in Chinese cooking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-50899599616711612742008-05-30T07:38:00.000-07:002008-05-30T07:38:00.000-07:00PP,It's really amazing how very different all the ...PP,<BR/>It's really amazing how very different all the fish sauces vary isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Tigerfishy,<BR/>I think we can say that about a lot of Asian food! I don't know why Blogger sometimes swallows up comments. :(<BR/><BR/>Sis,<BR/>Yes, soy sauce post will be coming eventually. :)<BR/><BR/>DP,<BR/>Usually I use VNese versions b/c that's what I have on hand, but I do know that if I cooked ThaiWandering Chopstickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703018765718062460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-66718163251718184252008-05-30T06:38:00.000-07:002008-05-30T06:38:00.000-07:00That aisle a great sight.. I'm jealous.That aisle a great sight.. I'm jealous.Tony Yarbrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13211366240629426813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29502985.post-83362211618834850192008-05-29T23:22:00.000-07:002008-05-29T23:22:00.000-07:00I always use the Squid brand. When I told the hubb...I always use the Squid brand. When I told the hubby how fish sauce is made he was a bit put off but I still put fish in the food without him knowing anyway. Now he even cooks with fish sauce. ha. I've tried nuoc mam nhi Viet Huong but it's a bit sweet for my liking.Hedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272166197082137905noreply@blogger.com